In this special Mother's Day episode you will meet the woman behind the man (Regie Hamm), the life of the party and a very special person all the way around. Regie & Yolanda have been married going on twenty-nine years, and together have two children. Yolanda is a dedicated mother and together with Regie, the primary care giver to their daughter Bella who has a rare disorder called Angelman Syndrome, as well as their son Gabe who is a one man show himself.
Yolanda is a veteran at American Airlines, a strong advocate for adoption and somehow manages to keep Regie in line, all at the same time.
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much appreciated. Are I? Dude, we're headed into some deep waters here. Um, yes, we are. But before I reveal our guests, I just want to say we've got a couple things going on here. This'll is our 10th episode. Handclaps. Yeah, we made it. We made it to 10. Um and that's pretty good. So it's kind of a double whammy force now. I know. I just said I was going to reveal our special guest, but I think it's such especially such a special guest, the honor should go to you.
Well, Dev Ah, this is the ah, this is the girl that was wearing the blue dress that day. And you know the day I'm talking about I know the day. Ah, because you looked at me and she's walking away in that blue dress. And you went, Did your just done You're dying was like, um, I think I might be done. And here we are 29. Whom years later, Uh, and so are today's guest. And I'm taking a big risk your death, because I think once people hear her, they're not gonna want to hear us anymore. Yeah, I'm afraid that's the case. We'll take the risk anyway. The Mother's Day episode. We figured we get the mother of all mothers to join us. Ah, so without further ado, today's guest is my wife, Yolanda Ham. So everybody welcome to the shoe, Yolanda.
Yes, and in fact, she is so special. She is probably the only guests that will have her own intro song. And but so before I play it, though, I have to say, this was written and performed by you, Regie Hamm. And it's actually a cut from your American dreams record, which is still, by the way, one of my all time favorites, Um, and it's pretty obvious where the inspiration came from. But tell everybody really quick kind of the story behind this This little tune here
well, you're gonna you're gonna hear my wife and you're going to get a sense of She's really the charismatic one of the two. It's like she's the one that kind of lights up the room. I mean, I'm the artist. I'm you know, blah blah blah, but I go out and make the music and do the shows and whatever, but I've always maintained that she's actually the real star and I'm kind of, ah, I could be a wallflower at a party I'm I'm happy to, like, stand in the corner and watch people. She is that person that walks in. She could walk in in a burlap sack. Everyone kind of gasp what she's done before, by the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly how cool she makes that, you know. I mean, all right. And so everybody and so so our whole married life. Everybody's always Mawr interested, like if they know both of us, there are.
Tell me about
your What's your hand doing? So she's so funny. And so I have in. So the biggest question that I got the first, you know, 29 years we were married was house Yolanda. And so finally, I just you know, I was so used to saying, You lot just find that I was like, You know what? Screw it. I'm writing a song about this. And that's how the song Yolanda's Fine was born. I just It was just sheer absolute frustration. Well, without
further ado, I'm going to roll her intro here. Here we go.
I love a girl who holds the world by the proverbial too to know how to taste my away got so coming down right being you won't on those how she's doing Teoh.
All right, man. Yolanda Hamm. Welcome to the group.
You know, pressure A couple things. I wonder. Dress 1st 1st of all, I wanna have that girl's voice that says that very first voice. Welcome. Okay. I don't know who she is, but her voice is amazing. Secondly, I want to have the British voice of the of that girl because I want a combination of that. That would be the voice I would like to appear.
You know that you can have all of that. It's just a matter of just a little practice, you know, little a diction, Coach. You know
I'm horrible at accents. You can ask. Ready?
Well, you're your worst at your worst accent of all is the British accent. Like you could do a lot of other. You do the greatest Southern accent. You're not from the South, but you do the funniest, like, belly laugh kind of Southern accent I've ever heard You do? Great. Obviously you're Hispanic, so you know you do that that sort of dialect. Great. But you can't seem to e. I don't know what I try to get the British accent. It doesn't work.
It does. It is terrible. I can do a sport a t c for. What's that? That wasn't even. Yeah, and thank you for the introduction of the other thing. I was thinking, as I was listening to. Just a little bit of those lyrics is how really that song would change if you wrote it today. She seems most she seems just fine. Just most the time, which would change to some of the time. Um,
we will change the way more than that way.
All right, you guys actually true, And I know you guys have been ah, you know, uh, pent up together there for a while, So might have to take it easy.
Okay? This It sounds like she's calling in overseas, but she's in another room and actually in our house, talking on the phone to us. So But it would have been cooler if you would have said she's overseas. So if she if you know what I mean, he's or something.
Yeah, and she's calling in from the beach. Well, not the beach. No, no, no, no, she is not. She is not on the beach. Ah, the beaches close the beaches closed. Um, so it's great. Obviously the have you on our show? Um, thank you. We have some stuff to cover here. I think we have. We can. Actually. This episode could probably be five hours long.
Absolutely. We have a lot of catching up to do, but But you just you're gonna have to rein me in. You know that?
I don't know. There's no no, no such thing, Speed. Speaking of, um, there's a lot of, you know as well, you know, getting up in our years and over a course of a lifetime. I think there are only a few like firsts and own lease, right? There are a lot of first, but sometimes there's like an only And that's kind of one of the things I want to kind of kick this off because you actually brought in one of those own lease into my life. And it's, you know, when you're in school, you know, middle school. I don't know. Elementary, maybe high school. I didn't get many fights. You know, I got in a couple, like, minor minor skirmishes here and there. But but as a grown man, like a grown grown up person, I've never had any physical altercation. Riel physical altercation with anyone. Um, until one night in Las Vegas, Reggie and I, we we we we're all in Vegas. And we were finishing up the night, if I recall correctly, um, and you had to use the restroom, and that's perfectly fine. And Reggie and I, you know, kind of did the same. But we got done early, and we were just kind of hanging out, you know, right outside the restrooms, just, you know, chit chattin. And all of a sudden we kind of start hearing like a loud voice, like loudness, like something is going on and we kind of just kind of start like do what's going on, you know, And I look over and what we both look over, and I can still close my eyes and see it, like, right now, you were backing out of the restroom, both arms in the air fighting position fighting position. And as you got closer where we began to understand what you were saying, which was bring it on, show d Bring it on. Just bring it on and rest. They will never forget it, man. We look at each other and here comes this dude and out of the restroom. We don't know what happened. We don't know. And at that moment, I really I just like I just settled in my mind. I'm going to be in a fight like I'm going get
same thing day. If I was, like, Okay, we're gonna fighting that night. I'm a 30 something year old man who is about to actually get in
a fight. Yeah, and it's just one of those things where I thought that this guy was going to come out and, you know, fortunately, cooler heads because it seems like Reg had, you know, he handled the situation. Eso Well, like he had experience. Um, you know, calming things down before death. Like maybe I don't like, Maybe you have done it before, but
well, you need to set it up a little bit. So So? So what would happen if tell me from right here, Lana. But what happened is they quote, they had they closed one of the restrooms down, and they were kind of sending so both genders had or all six genders, or how many ever there are now. But there weren't There were only two back those days. They were like like some girls could go in, and then guys would go in and then but the But apparently these guys went in before they were supposed to. Isn't that what happened?
Yeah, we were taking turns and I was going in with, um, another friend. Can we say with the
with Kevin's wife? Yeah. Like
that time And
my wife at the time
of the time.
I waas. Yes. Yeah, yeah. We were supposed to take turns, and these kid come in.
I think they were growing in, but
they were, Yeah, but they were They felt like kids to me. They're looking for ecology. You know, I was argued my thirties, I guess. And, um so we were in there using the facility and bump, they come just bouncing in. I think someone had said, Hey, wait your turn And there at the urinals and we are stuck and we come out And that's what I said. You know, you're supposed to wait and they're, like, scream and then due to start screaming at me. And I just lost it, you know, rude And I have been drinking a little because I normally don't go to like, the last thing I'll do is attack. Somebody's, like, physical. I mean, I always try to be sensitive to that, but I I called him Shorty, and he was sure
he was a little friends
duties that shorter. He was also say that those guys were like Jersey Shore. Uh, I mean, they look like that came right off the show. Jersey shore, right? They were like we actually,
when it was happening, we actually got a aloft of cologne.
Yeah, and again they were It added to the mother in, you know, they were they were gym tan laundry guys, but this guy was kind of uncommonly short. And I
had, by the way, if I could just say and admit I as he came out, I thought, All right, I can, you know, between me and Red, we can take this dude. Um, on. Then here comes his two buddies, and and then in my mind, I immediately was planning on I'll still take the short guy. I'm still got four. Guy is Reggie's wife, man. I'm just gonna I'm gonna do what I can over here on then. You know, register's gonna have to take care
of. Yeah, but the way it looks, the way it played out is she's backing out and she says, Bring it, Shorty. And I like, I think I literally looked at you. Deben went. She actually called him Shorty on. I was
like, We're going to get in a fight where
I know I was. Yeah, it was disrespect. That was it. You know, that was he had disrespected me.
Hey there. And then one of the dudes looked over, I think when he figured out we were together is like, you know, you need to get your woman into control, you know, and I was like, bro, you know what? If you can help me figure that out, I think that kind of broke the ice a little bit. And then and then we all kind of laughter, Something I don't know. We defuse the situation. We did not have to fight that night. Let's put it that way.
Yeah, we were just really We just got out of there as fast as we could because I thought, you know, again, I thought we were gonna get into a little skirmish there, so that that's one of my kind of favorite all time. Ah, I almost got in a fight as a man story. Um, yeah. So welcome. Yeah.
I mean, look, here's the deal. I I will tell you this. Um, it wasn't for me. It wasn't really about, like, Okay, if there's gonna be a fight, there's gonna fight. But I'm always kind of like, as I've gotten older. It's like, OK, what is it? I'm actually willing to fight over. True, true, and I'm not, You know what I mean? And especially now that you know, like a put records out whatever. There's a possibility that it could get out and people will find out about. And it's like I'm not gonna have people reading Got in a fight with three guys from the Jersey Shore, you know, because there was an incident in Vegas through people. But, you know, I mean, that's just like so that's just so it's Look, if someone was, like, you know, trying to harm my family or something like that, yeah, we'll get in a fight over that, but that would that didn't seem like that rose to that level. It was just
It was headed there, and I think she was your family. But here's my question. Would you
should have gotten
right with that dude, you know, it would be This would be a much better story if we would have actually got in a fight way, should change that up and and say We actually got in a fight and took out These three do
well. I think the point here is the moral of the story. The only one of the three of us who really wasn't afraid to fight was her. That's the point. That's the point. That's how it seems
that enough the discussion we had later where Reggie, you know, was expressing his first bit of frustration with the situation that I was forcing him to fight into which my response was No, I didn't. I was good to go.
Yeah, you were good, Teoh. We made it
at CES off. No, my shoes off. Did I not?
No. Yeah. I don't think anything had come off it that point. Um, I think everything was intact. And then I said, Wait, we got into the ah ah, the cars and, you know, got back safely and we get Once I got my room, I honestly felt like I'm not coming out for a while. I just needed any of the little break
well, and let me and let me just also reiterate you were way taller than that guy, like, way taller than him, you know? I mean, if you're taking your shoes off, it would have made it a little more of a fair fight for, you know,
it would have. And looking back now that you say that Reg taking him out probably wouldn't have been that hard if she, you know, got in some shots. I got in some shots and then you were over here negotiating with these other two dudes with big. Here's the thing is my question. If that happened today, would anything change? Because, Well, because back then I know we had cell phones. But, like, you know, everything now is, you know, video.
Well, they would have all been filmed. First of all, it would have all
I would have had my phone out. I would have been, like, as quickly as I could just to capture the moment or somebody would have.
That's the thing. Okay,
bring that up because there's always somebody somewhere we just look, we've had a horribly ah, horrible incident down in Georgia where a guy got shot. I don't want to go into that. That's not really what we're talking about. Don't get too heavy, but here's the point I'm making Everything seems to get filmed these days, and long did you and I were talking about this yesterday, but it's not. It is not our first instinct to film something like, if I if I saw an altercation, it wouldn't be my first move toe. Pull the phone out and try to get, you know footage of it. It would be either, you know, help or go for help or whatever, but it's like these days, like our first, our first move. Oh, I got to get this. I gotta get to something like guys like I always wonder about if you see a fighter. If you see some kind of weird, you know, something happening to somebody. I always wonder about the person filming it like what's going through their mind. Why are they Why is that their move instead of toe help? You know, that's something about that. That kind of bothers
me, I think, I think probably, I mean, if something funny is happening, it's one thing. I think if there's something serious going on, um, a couple things I think one people are afraid to even help out these days because of liability, like just liability issues like you step in the middle of a fight and you pick out the wrong guy or whatever in whatever. I mean, there's a lot of liability. And then, you know, just the sheer fact of, you know, proof of, you know, here's the proof, right? Like there's here is actually what happened, you know, on on the thing I think a lot of people do that. And the one thing I've noticed that, like people, man, they record, you know, a cop company. You get pulled over, people start putting the phone up, filming the guy, just giving you a ticket or whatever. Like I don't. I'd be kind of nervous toe whip out of phone and start like, you know, videoing an officer. You know, that just pulled me over. I don't know. I mean, and I'm in the, you know, I'm I'm in the business. I'm in the video business, and I I still get a little uncomfortable pulling out my phone and pointing it towards somebody.
Yeah, here's a question. I mean, what? How do you think I really I We've been married, What, 29 years in December? I mean, how would that? How would our relationship have changed early on, if everything was on camera? Like we've been going through a lot of pictures lately. We've been going through a lot of old photos, stuff we didn't even remember, you know, people that we didn't remember and just places like man, where was that? When did that happen? I just wonder, you know, what the effects of a long term relationship are when everything is on camera. You know what I mean? Not just not just caught on pictures, but it's like you see it. You see the reality of it, you know, rather than the almost feel like there's something nice about being able to kind of put a patina on things in your memory, you know, like maybe it wouldn't exactly that way, But we we kind of make it, you know, a little bit more of what we wanted it to be. But, man, when it's all on cameras, just all raw, you get the raw feed of everything. I don't know. What do you think?
Um, no, I don't like it. I like to make it. Ah whole scenario of what happened, what that picture was about, or whatever. That that memory waas. And then, you know, it changes through the years and they always seems to get better. You can't really change what you see in real life. I you know me. Look, I'm I I could barely check my email and text, and I like that. I like it like that. Why drive my son crazy, but I just I'm I just have not down with all of it, I think, you know. Yeah,
I think we tend to
we tend to remember things better than they were. Um, yes, yes, you
know. Yeah. But I think that that's survival a little bit, you know? I don't know.
Yeah, I agree. It is
survivable. Yeah. And I think there's something about capturing an instant, like a like a just a one sec. I mean, just a flash of something. Um, because that kind of just it makes you more.
Let me tell you what What, what what Flash is to my mind, which which has happened several times when I've tried to capture things on Isabella today she was she was feeding herself breakfast. I was putting the fork, and I've just she's done in the past few mornings that we we've been practicing and she's just closed so beautifully. It is just she and I having breakfast, and the minute I pull my camera out, even a suddenly is I think I'm doing it. And I'm talking about a child, you know, with obs cognitive issues and thing and special needs. She gets that that the atmosphere just changed. And what is happening between us is now has it changed the complexion of what happened. And it really hit me today. I thought, I'm trying to capture these moments when they're really for me. And while I would love to sort of share them with other people, she's cheeked. She does not into that. And I think some so many people are sitting around. I've got to capture this. And even when they posted on Facebook, I think to myself. But it was really sweeter in the moment. If you had just enjoyed the moment. I don't know. And now I'm so over killed on all that because, you know, we've been in quarantine and I told you originally were watching. We're talking today, and I'm like if I see one more family break out in dance, I'm gonna lose my mind and you don't Me. So now, now all that authentic, beautiful stuff is like, Oh, now we're going to show that we're actually the one of your color family. What? Just go. So I don't know. I I have a real I'm not a lover of all things that are filmed and I like Teoh. Sometimes you just have to take the photograph in your mind and and let that live with just you so
well in here and here I have dragged you into doing It's Saturday, Facebook live with me. So I feel like I'm gonna break in our trip. And
no, that's not now that I like because, you know, I don't know. I just It's fun. It's It's I don't think a lot of people Yeah, a lot of people get. They did see Reggie that I like that they get to see our relationship. I think that's what Because we truly for the most part enjoy each other's company and and and rip off each other. And what I've loved you is that people are finally seeing a funny Reggie is
finally yeah, right. Finally, yes, I, after all, know I'll tell you. Listen, it's not unlike the song. Um, I I I will. I will say things that Yolanda said, or post things that you wanna said, or I'll try to kind of give people a glimpse into you know what our relationship is like, Oh my gosh, you guys must laugh all the time or or they don't get it or they're like, Oh, my gosh, she sounds crazy or whatever. You know, Now you've been around us deaf. So you know, you know what this is like even in our script that, you know, we're trying to get made into a film? A lot of people haven't quite gotten the atmosphere. I mean, they love the dialogue and then they'll. But then they'll ask me now, is that like, Did you make that up? Or is that like, really, what I was like? No, this is all kind of based on, like, real conversations that we have. This is like and I think there's something that kind of puts people off as much as people want to talk about women being equal to men and having the same power and agency and blah, blah, blah, blah. But when they actually see it happening, it's off putting to them. But we've always had that relationship where we kind of I wrote about in the book where we, you know, we look literally Look, I I were the same height about it, although I'm 5 11 I'm 5 11 and ah, she's But anyway, I all of that was a mystery to people. So I just thought, Why don't we do Why
just bring her on camera and let's just see if it actually translates. And it seems to, you know, people, people, people have really been enjoying it. Although she's sort of overtaking me now. People are like, Hey, could we just Could we just Yolanda and you know, do we have to have you in their asses? Well, you know,
that happens. You knew that was gonna happen when you started
it. So that was going absolutely.
And so that you guys were doing this. What? Every Saturday. Now Facebook live? Yeah, very exciting.
And it's just like like this. Look, when I do my thing, you know, there's always some, you know, some some theme and blawg behind it. And then, you know, I typically cry. Yeah, I play a song and somebody ends up crying. I mean, this is just like, this is just us. Like talking about stuff we've watched this week, stuff we were thinking about stupid stuff that, you know, it's just like and you want to usually has a Kroger story that she turns into something hilarious. Even if it wasn't, she always turns. This is the thing I love about my wife is that she's always been able to make she whenever she comes back from anywhere. I don't know if ever, ever told you this letter, but you've always got a story. It doesn't matter if it was just mundane. It's I've always will always look forward to because she always makes it funny. Somehow she sees the funny part of it. That's, Ah, humor man humors. I don't I don't know that people, sir, I don't know how any marriage, long term relationship, long term friendship, whatever survives without humor. I mean, Dev you and I are We are in a constant joke thread. It's it's weird for us to actually make a serious comment in our constant text through it, you don't mean it bust it, But that would have any idea what we're talking about, which they will never do by the way they will not.
But yeah, you're right. I mean, I think humor is something that ah, it keeps things alive and it's hard to, you know, you can't if that chemistry is not there. You know when we've all been around couples and people that are just like man, you know that that dude's wife is, you know, boring as hell or that that guy's a you know, a whole or something. But it is interesting it being around you guys has been, ah, at time. There's been a lot of, Ah, lot of stories that we probably won't get into. But I do
have that. We do have the whole thing. I mean, they there's that whole. There's that whole concept We talk about it all the time of Do we want to hang out with both people, right? Like if there's a couple right? Linda?
Yes, it's awful when there's just that Onley want the wife or the husband, it's Yeah, so we just don't anymore,
especially E. Now. And I will tell you about the unnamed woman that we were talking about at the top of the show that you used to be married to. I will say a week. Let's I want to give her props because, dude, she was funny. You mean there was a lot of I mean, I I hear the deafening silence on the other end there. I know what you're thinking, but she really was
married to her, but we way
were married to, But she was
times we vacationed with you guys or went out. I remember us just laughing My, your any quick, it talking about understood message received. Yeah. Sometimes you number you have. You obviously have to have more. But let's talk about
this Corona virus for a
second. Negative humor.
So you guys, crazy thing,
this cove in 19. I mean,
what you guys have been get any funnier?
So you guys have been to get, you know, like together. How's it been? What's it been like crammed together? The two kids? We'll talk about that because And let's just also, by the way, you want it works at American Airlines. Right? So all that kind of came into play like I I can remember I was actually out of town when all this sort of, like, started bubbling up. And there was actually a few moments where, you know, there were complaints or some cancellations, and I was kind of worried I wasn't gonna be ableto get back home. But what's it been like for you guys?
Yeah, What did we said? Ready all along this we started this cove it with. We started this quarantine journey 17 years ago, and I mean, the toilet paper has changed. That has been that, you know, that I wasn't a bit of
it was there were wrinkle. Honestly, that was just a
weird result. But for us, we've, you know, we we look oh, we chose a path that was of least resistance, which was to stay with Bella. And we have been her full time caregivers. And there have been people through the years that have given us nights off and things like that. But for the most part, it's been just easier to to be at home. So for this family, like we've not skip to be, our kids are golden, you know, gives 13. So he doesn't care as long as he has music, food, his new scooter and friends. Um, video games. He's cool. Ah, and Bella, you know, we we But I think we probably been more active with her just in getting around walks and getting around driving around. But But, Regine, I have been having, you know, date nights every night for many many years. Um, now to say that there have been times when you see Oh, yeah. Doesn't look they
think in her line. Yeah,
way. Remember it better than it is. Okay. Or what are what we have? I mean, I were we talked the other the other night. And just that, you know, if you registered, I've actually enjoyed this. I mean, there have been times when his crunching really did put me over the edge.
The currency. Yeah.
Dude, he lifted some crackers and there was nothing. It was like crickets and in the kitchen until the big down the crackers. And it was if the house is coming off. I mean, the walls were shaking and I was looked at him. It got love him. He was just enjoying him. He wasn't do anything wrong. No, he was just crunching.
He was enjoying the tote
that thin. The lasers that were coming from her eyes actually burned into my skull because that's all she really had this year, right? She just had
to go right way and literally, I think that's the thing is there's been note. There have been moments where, like, there's nowhere to go. There's nowhere for these kids to go. There's nowhere for ready to go there. So in that respect, there've been a couple moments of panic. But for the most part, I think we've We've done really well. And now Reggie's version.
Yeah. Let's hear. Read. Really, I agree. I mean, look, we knew we were gonna be home bound. I don't know. Six months after we got home with Bella and they told us, you know, that the therapist said she's probably not We're gonna walk. Probably never gonna, you know, say any words. Ah, and we you know, we bought this house, uh, to basically customize it for that life. And so we've been living that, like, you know, I mean, so I've got my little studio in office. I can kind of retreat to, and you know, when it's got the little combat little cabana out back and we've all got our little away spaces, we can kind of go to, um and we do that, you know, all week. Anyway, whether there's a quarantine on or not, we're pretty much here, and I can't think honestly, like I can't think of much that's changed, except that the kids are going to school that's really about it.
I think the one thing that that is different, what would be the mean if you needed to go somewhere you could if you want, needed to go literally, anywhere you could. The difference is now, you know, it's like, Well, you go to the grocery store. Oh, are you can go, you know, did this place with very few places and no one's that, you know, telling you to stay home. You know, don't go out, get a virus, you die. All this kind of stuff. I think that's that's been kind of for me the the madness, because, you know, seem here because I have had offices and stuff before outside of my house. But, you know, I work from home as well. And so for me, I don't hardly go anywhere in anyways. Except, you know, occasionally, you know, we'd like, Hey, let's go toe some, you know, somewhere for dinner. You know, you go to sit down. I can't remember. Honestly, some weird that what it was, what it's like to actually go into, like a you know, nice steakhouse and sit there and and eat without thinking of like, oh, do they have? No, they have. Do they have? No, They don't have a mask on though. They have a mask on Shouldn't, should we? In on this card. And
by the way, we all have our masks on right now. Like Debs and Dallas are No, your eye. But we're all where I wear that mask. So,
yeah, I understand, you know, apart. But
so I had to wear masks to the dentist today, and I got the chair and left it on. But that's awesome. Yeah, I did. And I go, she goes, you know, I go out, you people there. Somebody check my temperature. You know, we went through 10 staff support. Could even walk back to get my teeth clean. Um, so that was That was fun. That's my story for today, Wretch.
That's it. You got you. That's right. Early this morning, you get
told a funny ha ha with the mask on trying to claim the tea. Yeah. Um, but yes. Over. Still, I don't know. We have I think we have laughed Mawr, um, 100% sir. Yes. Oh, yes. Definitely laughed more just because, you know, we're stuck in Netflix lander watching crazy stuff. We like to watch crazy programs where people are insane. And, um, and Reggie is wondering why. I think we just were looking for somebody that's a little more often us.
And then that says, I bar my friend.
Then we found it.
We found it last night with 90 day fiance. Oh, that's the kind of crazy I tune in for right there. That's that's why I watch television is 90 day fiance,
right? Man, I've not had the privilege of watching that That is that on Ah, Netflix, or is that just Ah, on
Tonto? It was one of those times, and I was like, We've run out of things to so watch and, you know, thank you, by the way, for turning us onto succession. But, um, somebody said, Oh my God, you wanted does too crazy And I kind of put on the back burner. And then last night we were sitting there. I'm like, Let's just let's see what this is about. Forget about it. 2/2 hours three hours later, couldn't agree. We were laughing so hard.
And when the when the young man who was traveling to Amazon to meet the love of his life was handed locks, locks of hair from his mother to keep to keep next to him to remember her by. I was, like, clean. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. This is television.
Yeah. So that's where
man Well, I
would like to. I wanted to have grown as a person that I've learned so many things about myself. But no. Zero. Zilch, nothing. This is not a better person at all. Nothing's changed. I tell
you what. The only thing I've learned about myself is how much I literally hate to go anywhere like everybody's like freaking out about. I been home for something like I This is fine to me. Like there's not any of this bother me at all. I'm finding somebody got me a T shirt that said, um I'm sorry, I let I'm sorry I'm late, but I really don't want to be here. And I wear it non. Ironically, you know, people have it. Hey, that's funny. I'm like, there's nothing funny about this. I'm telling you the truth. I mean, it was a little weird when I wore it Thanksgiving dinner, but, you know, it's
a little they got it. Trust me. Well,
I think I think this the whole social media side of of it all is has just gone insane, you know? I mean, I've had I actually went to a point where I had deleted my Facebook. Um, and then when we started a podcast, I turned it back on all this kind of stuff. And, you know, I have I hate to say it. I'm gonna admit it. I have snoozed so many people. There's just very few people left, you know, because it's just I
got, like, three things in my feet now have done the same thing. I tell you, dude, let me tell you, let me tell you what will get you snoozed from me and Yolanda. I can speak for Yolanda on this. If you lose your sense of humor, right, you're we are. We are done with you. Yeah. I could just tell you right now if everything is just ultra uber serious and Oh, my God. Uh, and there's never any break. There's never any, like, breath of humor at all. Like, you know, it doesn't mean you got to be a clown all the time, But just at some point, man. Just some kind of break up. If there's, if that if that just never comes through in your feed. Oh, are any kind of light You don't have to be. You don't have to be a comedian, but just any kind of light. It's like, I can't have that really? In my life. I mean, I understand the issues. I delve into the issues. I have opinions on the issues. I write about the issues. I know that there are bad things happening in the world. And at some point, if you can't balance that with some with some humor been Ah, I just I don't know, I That's a tough thing for me. And I know it's a tough thing for you. Launder.
Well, I know, I know. Red. You mean you did. You do dive into a lot of deep stuff in that. That Ah, the humor probably helps balance out. Um, the rest of it. You know, um, my wife has, ah, her own podcast, and it's called the Crime Shack. She likes, you know, crimes. Which scares me.
Um, it's like elaborate crimes. Were wives have murdered their husbands and pinned it on someone else, stuff like that.
That that kind of stuff. He you know, they were out feeding the pigs and he accidentally fell in. Uh, you know, and it's kind of it's kind of funny because she kind of works on it. You know, her podcast, listen, writes it and stuff, and then I'll help hope to record it. And I literally I'm hearing it for the first time, you know, like as she's recording it in. I mean, there are times that I've just had to go like, Dude, are you like he says here? Yes, you know. And she, like her last one was something about, um all these difference Ah, ah, syndromes that that mothers get for the reasons they kill their Children. And I'm like, uh, I had no idea in there. It's crazy, but
isn't this It's like Munchausen by proxy or something like
that. It is that, but it's that's that's one, like, slight thing. But listen to her podcast. I mean these things. They're like long words, and there's like, you know, the mother that does it for ah, because she thinks she needs to protect her Children. So she must Jesselyn and it got me. I don't know. I can't even get into it. But it's just it's just gonna ah, kind of crazy. But it does take a lot of balance, too, you know, because other by, she's hilarious, like just, you know, she makes me laugh.
So you're saying your wife now is funny to what you're saying?
No, I was I would say this. Well, the thing is, this you like funny women. And so you have been one of those few dudes that we've been able to hang out with. You know, you like, we can hang out as a couple.
That's good to know.
Yeah, Both people are on the weak and check the boxes of both people when we're hanging out with you
speaking off. So speaking of Netflix, um, one of the things get I made it to the end of Netflix, by the way. And just every now and then there's this kind of, like redeeming Ah, the latest Jerry Seinfeld standard. Oh, my God. Great. You guys are saying I ain't Oh, it's so good. I'm gonna I watched it yesterday when I watch it again. One of my favorite little bits that he doesn't mean he's just He saw me sign Phillies all solid all the way through. But as we when he talks about, you know, the older he gets, you know, he's loves, you know, the sixties, or, you know, that the best. Because, you know, he could just tell people No, like, I just Yeah, I just It's easy for me to tell people No, but then he's like he's looking forward to the seventies because then he just won't say anything to anyone like
you just wave he just ways and keeps gone my favorite bit London. And, you know, because we have lived this is the voice that your wife creates for you, you know, Im Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, used to It really was like never in my life spoken like
that. My You do.
And that's how that that think that's how we sound to them, Reg nsb It must be You know how sometimes you record yourself if you've never recorded yourself and then you listen back, you like that doesn't sound anything like me Like Was that a gunshot by the way or No, I just I thought I heard a gunshot
to me. Crime grounds you've been editing for your wife? Yeah, No doubt. As I'm telling you, as a as a record producer, I can tell you so many people think they sing a certain way until you get them on tape on your right. They That's what. The first day, I didn't really sounded like that. Yes, that's exactly how you sound. Well,
that's bizarre. That is totally bizarre. So let's let me get let me ask you guys a question. Another question about this, you know, I know where this is virus thing, and it seems like were you know, they're starting to open things up and all that, but what's I just like to get you guys, like, serious take on it? Like, what do you think? This thing Waas. What do you think happened?
No, I'm good. I'm on the straightforward gal. Uh, this one over here he's gonna have fearful for you. I, um, think that there are all kinds of viruses. I think we were just starting to scratch the surface. Um, I don't know. I don't know that I believe it's man made, but you know, it's weird, Daddy, but I I just think this is the beginning. And maybe this is gonna help us figure out how we're gonna live from this moment on. And I do think that it did change everything. Um, I think everything anything's ever really gonna be the same as it. Waas. I think any time we've been so freaked out about this, that any time someone coughs or sneezes, we're always gonna have, I thought in the back of our mind. Well, crap. Here we go.
Yeah, they're like, that was a dry cough,
right? Or And it could be the flu. It could be you. It could be all of the existing things we've had or it could be a new thing. But, um, I what will you I don't know that everyone is going to be hugging as much and I don't know, I wonder. I mean, on a positive note, are people gonna be hanging out with their family more and understand that that's pretty important in that? Actually, you do enjoy each other's company or um, me. I don't know. I'm sad in some ways, because I work for the Trump Trump. Understand? I wonder if we'll ever really fully recover and people will really move about like they used to. So, um, I think there's some some good things and bad things, but I don't think it's everything. I don't think we're ever gonna be the same. So
I agree with you and I think I think it in my opinion, and I'm not. I just think it probably was engineered somewhere. I think a lot. I mean, if there's a place where they do things like that, are we? Are we really to believe that those things were never gonna accidentally get out And guess what? There is a place where they do things like that, and it's in Wuhan, China. They do manipulate viruses and they weaponize them and they figure out how you know how to manipulate this part of it in that part of it. So that's just my opinion. I agree with long. I think there's been a ton of them. I mean, we were in China when SARS came out. I could We've had this conversation, Linda. I promise you, if there was social media in 2003 we would not have our daughter because they would have shut down there. It would have even been a government shutdown. There would have been so much shaming of people getting on planes, going to China and bringing kids back during the SARS epidemic that it would the whole program would have shut down. Whole adoption program was shut down just because people would remember putting us at risk. You're putting us at risk, you know? Right?
Right. Do you remember that they held back a dude? I'm one of our flights a week when he got into the Los Angeles.
Well, of course, because I thought it was going to be
me. I know they, like please sit in to stay in your seat.
The CEO? Yes. Team got everybody looked at me because I had the cough. I don't remember that. You know the guy sitting behind it's like, patted me on the bags. I'm sorry, bro. Come get me. What
do you think? Though? My loving my loving thought was I'm taking his baby and getting like, Sorry, Shorty and girl are gone. But take it back a
little further than that, even because what would
have this? Because we were getting so much information overload. It's I think everyone agrees. No, one really knows what to believe. I think we certainly I hope, you know, we've all learned something from this. Um and like you said, Reg, I mean, yes, there are some places a lot of those places that deal with, you know, something that you can't even see that if it was let loose, could wipe out, you know, the planet, which is terrifying. But imagine what would this have been like if it was, Let's just say 19 70 1960. And there was three networks, and the news came on at what? Whatever. 10 oclock at night for an hour, um, and then went off. And, like, I just I'm I wonder what kind of information we would have had, what the reaction would have been, would it wouldn't have been enough to come on. You know Walter Cronkite. Come on. You know, it's one of the segments. Say, you know, everyone needs to stay at home. I mean, would everyone have done that? I mean,
I mean I go back to 2003. I mean, I think we lived through what you're exactly actually talking about. I mean, SARS is 10 times deadlier than Kobe, 19 and hundreds of families were still allowed to go to China and adopt kids. And when we got back, But here's what they told us, the CDC handed us a pamphlet on the plane. It said, Hey, if you've got these, these five symptoms stay in your house for the next 10 days Thank you
no more than 10. It wasn't 21 back then because I feel like we didn't
know it was 10. It was 10 days.
Okay? I thought it was more. I would have made it 21. I know that we didn't like we had the welcome home and then wait for two weeks. We said we didn't We didn't invite anybody over
way still corn Wario or something, right?
yeah, I mean, so it was pretty much that deaf. I mean, that's that's what they did. Even in 2003. I just There's some There's some kind of publicity's thing about I hesitate to say that, but I think it's I think it is a just heightened sense of knowledge we have and every you know, and so things can just Corinne faster than they could. But I promise you if we had what we If if we had in 2003 what we have now in terms of information phones, computers, ipads, all of that stuff, I promise you it would have been the same response to that, then is it is now, and there may be some. There may have been some SARS patients that got that got into the United States from China. I mean, how would we know? Nobody. You know there are. No one was really tested. So I've questioned, really since we got back. For 17 years, I've thought about that I've thought about. And what do we bring it over here from there that we don't even know we have. That's it's been laying dormant. What was my daughter have? What does What do I have? What did we take with us to China that way? Spread over there. I mean, I think launches exactly right. This is kind of the kind of a new awakening on how we're gonna deal with all of this stuff. The flu, You know, a stomach bug, you name it. It's all getting ready to be put through this filter. I think from here on out. And I
think people with anxiety and myself included. I mean, I at the site of the first sign of fever or the first you know, every time if I have to cough, or if I start feeling like, kind of bad or whatever I'm like, Oh, no. You know, like, I've got it like that. That's the only thing like, I've got it right. And it could be the flu. It could be the cause, you know, Just a regular cold. I mean, it could be that's it could be any number of things. And but now it's all just about of no, I've got that, um and it was weird. It was very strange for me because I I stayed at home as well, you know, for, um I think I went out a total of maybe three times in two months. And then the next thing you know I wore I had I have to work and so unfortunate to still be able to work. But I had to go to the airport last Sunday. Um, DFW and it was spooky. Airy. Yeah. I mean, people walking around with masks and and very, very few people. Um And then and then there was those that were just like it was just no other. Just like a regular day. You know, at the airport, You know, um, and get on the plane. There's I think there was only I think maybe I didn't count exactly, but probably maybe 12 people on the plane. Yeah, that's
a dream flight, man.
A man. It's almost like private.
You get your own private jet. That's what I'm waiting on. When I'm until I It's like me and three other people.
But now the the flight attendants, I mean, everything was just like, man, they were You mean they had their masks on right then.
They're not serving. They're not playing anymore. They had. So here's let me just and let me just also say the other thing that I'm finding, actually, even more disturbing is what's happening in nature like So now we've got these killer bees. I don't know what's gonna happen with them, and then and then there's now this this new worm that's eating up all the stuff in Washington State. I mean, I feel like every day there's not great news about what's happening in our world. And it's like, I mean, you could sit here and watch it and think about okay, What's all right? So what does that mean? If this killer bee does come, I'm more afraid of that thing that I am. Cove it crazy. So there's, like, something to feed everybody's phobia. Um, and if we don't somehow figure out how to get past it, our lives are gonna be miserable. And I think, you know, Reg and I both said this sounds crazy, but, I mean, I should have If anybody should have gotten the cove, it should have been me. But I had a very close friend who got diagnosed five days after I hugged her, worked very closely with her at the airport. I was on a shuttle bus with 50 TSA agents and all airlines employees, and there was no no distance. And they did not start doing that until well into them shutting the country down, that they start making changes in that situation. I mean, and I think about the people that were flying through and people chewing from Italy, and, um, it was, you know, honestly, and so I sort of feel like I don't want to say, like, be boastful, but it's amazing that I did not bring that home to my family.
Yeah, or maybe Or maybe you did. And like a lot of they say, a lot of people like just just no symptoms,
no. Sometimes way had Lana, you know, we've
right and she ever some weird thing that's so here, like in Tennessee. Or and I know it's partly helping throughout the country. But 33 to 4 weeks before they shut the schools down for cove it they closed the schools down for four days because of quote unquote flu. Because there were so much there was people and kids were sick. So they were literally closing down county by county in our Middle Tennessee area because of so many absences. And I'm thinking to myself, that was probably our
Was that the flu? Was it all flu, or was it a mix?
You know, they're like, Oh, it it runs the gamut from stomach. This is what they said stomach, toe, respiratory, respiratory toe flew to. So we're just going to shut it down and just try toe, you know, get rid of all this and I've been thinking back. I just I think we should probably feel better knowing the things missing probably cycle through already. And that's why um there wasn't the warrant as many illnesses brought on and they had projected or whatever. So I don't know. I sort of take heart and thinking that a lot of of millions of people have already had.
Yeah, and I have a friend and I won't say his name or where he works. But back in, uh,
it a t and t I
who's a complete It's
actually just Nancy from lows. So, uh, no. And they started doing this trial by working at home back in late December, like early January, and they couldn't figure out, you know, it was just like a mandate. This is a very large company, and in this kind of thing, it was just a mandate, like, Oh, you know, this is part of our training, so we're going to start one day a week. You know, one of your employees, he needs to go work from home. Um, and and then it just it's like, OK, this week, we need, you know, five people to go work from home. And so by the time you know, there was the stay at home, kind of like mandate. They all had it down. I mean, they had all their systems tested. They had all the stuff, you know, going on. It's just interesting How
interesting they that the corporate ah, entity had decided to try that already before, right? 19? Yeah, it's exact. Almost like they might have known something ahead of time. Ugo, get in.
And that's what's so interesting is like, this is gonna what's gonna happen to real estate? Let's say all these companies go. We don't need this big, huge building. We can completely run this thing out of homes. We don't have to pay rent. We don't you know. I mean, it's sort of scary, like on the economic part of it. I think about that. Like majority people can work off the computer and be and be done with it
well, and it goes back to your industry. Linda, you know, I think there's gonna be aton of situations where people go. We don't need to fly for this, you know, we can do this on June. I
would get in the car. Yeah, right, Right
When I think a lot of people are afraid, you know, to him, it's like, Oh, we're opening back up Oh, it's time to come back to work And I think, you know, people. Some people are afraid to come back toe work. Um, you know, Microsoft and I forget the other co Amazon. I think, you know, they have pushed out to October 1. Um, and that's that's quite a long time. It
is a long time, but they've got it down a someone who travels and performs in front of total strangers. It it's definitely made me a little a little more. I don't want to be freaked out, but I will tell you, I probably gonna eliminate handshakes from my you know, from my routine at the merch table. I'm probably not be hugging people as much. Um, what about the kiss? I'm definitely go Stop sleeping with strangers. I've got just awarded that off. If I haven't known you more than three or four days and exits off,
unless they have papers on, then you know, like I know what
you've got to take one of those thermometers. Babel, you just check the forehead
that's what I'm gonna that's gonna monitor the gun
I got done today.
Syria. In all seriousness, I think I actually am taking handshakes off the table. And I've never been on a hunger, but I've never been comfortable. Some people will grab you and give you a kiss. Yeah, it's something like, you know, older ladies or or maybe just a well meaning friend or something. And it's always made me a little uncomfortable, like man. We didn't discuss that like that. We didn't know that was on the table. Right? For
me, it's been it's the older men that do that to me that I really like that I don't know. I know you like those old soft lips, but, I mean, I just It just kind of does something to
me taking a turn. Yeah, but yeah, I I just think you know, when it when i e. I think about these events that I view these corporate events. Okay, so it's not just it's not just a group of people like from, you know, Little Rock. It's a group of people that have flown in from all over the country, right? That's right. I think about I think about stuff like that when I when I've got a merch table set up and they're kind of coming through, it's like So not only is this a crowd of people, but it's a crowd of people from all different places, and I think I will think more about that the next time I'm in that situation. In that scenario, because, you know, we're all carriers of something now, you know we are,
and and it's and, you know, right in the middle of all this I've still had to travel some. Um, well, just before as this was kind of all breaking out, I had guys flying in from L. A. I was flying in from places and you know it. We were compelled, basically toe. Ask them, you know, Do you have any symptoms? I mean, it's It's almost like a such a. It's almost like we're just one step away from having to show that, you know, like, Here's it, here's Here's in that, you know, like, yeah, exactly. But But you you wanna I think people now are asking a lot more personal questions and and I also think, you know, it's, you know, the self policing stuff, and it just, you know,
it's going to be an app. Dude, we've talked about this. There's gonna be a it's gonna be called clean or something. And it's gonna be an app where, you know, you get all your tests in that app and you, you know, you get your temperature taking every day or whatever and it stays in the app, and it keeps a running total of what you know. So because I've thought about this for dating, like dating new people like the first kiss, you know, the first time you touch somebody first time you hug somebody, it's like, What? What's that gonna be like now, after this is all over and I think it's gonna end up being an app that where you can like where it's going to be flirting thing like, Hey, I'm gonna send you my I'm gonna send you my clean score, you know? I mean, we'll get together like hot clean score, man, make sure you make sure you get that girls clean score before you go out on a day. Whether you know,
so, basically veneer disease will just take a back seat. Would even care about that anymore.
That's Willett's wrapped in all of it. You know a man. It's wrapped in all of it. It's like there's STDs, but that's just kind of part of the equation. We got to know about the stomach. But the stomach bug that's been going around and the yeah, flu this big. Which, by the
way, if you think about what we're talking about, you know, everybody talks about the privacy of medical records. Now we're talking about having to walk around with our medical records just out, you know, like, here's, you know, here's everything I've been tested for and always
voluntary. You know, if it's voluntary, that's different.
Yeah, I mean, it's but But is it will it? I mean,
You know what? I want to be a carrier up. Jesus would be a Curia joy.
Oh, I was close. Something
guilty as charged.
It's gonna be in the next Hallmark Christmas movie. I can hear the line. I don't know what's on that girl's medical records, but I could tell you what she's carrying. She's carrying joy.
Yes, I'm waiting for Hallmark Teoh. Have they have even they haven't even really had an opportunity to reup reup that the whole thing up around the core Corona virus. I cannot wait for Corona movies.
Christmas is coming. Trust me, Karenna. Chris planned emmick.
I pray I can only open.
Hey, listen, is a long, high powered New York ad agency exec who wanted to go home. She got stranded in quarantine in this small town in Kentucky.
Yep, as long as it replaces that kid. That shoes song, you know? Ah, Christmas shoes. Personally, I'm all for it, you know? Let's let's just do that.
There's gonna be something even worse is gonna be covert shoes. There's gonna be
Christmas. Kobe's shoes.
For every pair you buy, they donate. Um oh, we
could We're gonna test. There have been people that have
long thin This is all gonna be edited out. No one will ever hear this. Yeah,
it and it is. You know, Look, it's all it could all go back to that real quick. So, you know, I mean,
say I'm going to jump in here, and I'm just going to say I would like to thank my wife for being on the show today. Yes, definitely. This has been your great. Thank you for doing this for taking O r. You're busy. Net. Netflix schedule. Teoh.
My pleasure. Well, I moved on upstairs because I was out of wine.
Uh, good things is good.
Shotgun you hurt? Might have been,
Ah, war with That was not a gunshot. Deaf
mute. I'm just looking. It will be not a large. That was not a shotgun.
Well, that's a lot of what Now this has been great. Seriously, you'll want to thank you. Thank you so much for coming on and gracing our show. And ah, can't wait
to catch a big Mother's Day special.
Yeah, I know. I feel like we should. We ended on something about mother. You
know, I think I think that it's It's early on afternoon and you're already drinking wine. I think I think we have the pick. Perfect picture right there. I think we have to get all the information we need. That's it.
I am. I'm sitting on my sofa with my daughter, listening to glee, looking at my dog, drinking wine, thinking about the cove. It
Ah, it just sounds like a wonderful afternoon.
Thank you guys so much. I really I really? It wasn't honor to be on Europe. You're pure cast here. And, uh, I wish you the best.
Thank you. I'll be up a little bit later. So keep me a glass. Get me a glass full. Thank you, Wanda. Thank you. Thank
you, Reggie. I love you.
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